A deep thread (religion vs self-belief)

Originally Posted by ITH

lol the first time i have to admit i didnt even read your post cause i figured it was just something trying to start an arguement

you and everyone else i talk to. np. we can't all be open-minded or listen. ;) glad you posted back, though. And I appreciate the openness :)

Originally Posted by Spin

HEHE...that'd been awesome to see that, never understood atheism, but then again, i'm sure they never understood religion either

Well, it really is like you say. After research and many long talks with friends I've concluded that I lack abstract thinking. Abstract thinking is/are thought patterns related to things like time, god(s), etc, intangable things or things that cannot be seen or felt. When someone tries explaining how the Christian god, God, works, it's very hard for me to apply it to real life when I'm sitting here drawing a complete blank or have already come to conclusions about what happens/ed and why I happens/ed. This is different from close-mindedness because I am trying to understand what people are saying, it's just impractical for my brain, which makes it impracticale for my lifestyle. Overall I guess I'm saying that religion will *always* be "going through the motions" and nothing more for me. As a matter of fact there are many many people *points to the U.S.A.* who claim to be Christians but only seem to go through the motions. Those are the kinda people, when they appear to be "strong in the faith," who cause others (non-believers) to constantly feel guilty, worthless, insuffiecent, etc. So, in closing, it's just not applicable to my life and from what I see. [organized] Religion has just caused problems with people who arn't "part of the crowd."

Originally Posted by MegamanEXE

Anyway, it seems like you have something against ORGANIZED Religion...

I didn't clearify that when I say/said "religion" i meant "organized religion". And yes, you are correct to say that. And generally speaking, too, not just Christianity.

Originally Posted by MegamanEXE

Oh and Ice, when you talk about gods who arent God himself, the g is lower case.

He meant the chrstian god, God. His first words were about christianity followed by how his grandparents are oppressive. READ Pat, READ.